So DC only has two comic book characters that they want to make into movies? Batman and Superman. That's all. Oh, sure they crapped out Green Lantern, but what else have the done? Jonah Hex? The first Superman movie was good, not awesome, but good. The second one was cheesy fun, but it was no masterpiece. Then Superman III, with Richard Pryor. Wasn't there a Supergirl movie or something? Then the big "reboot" of the Superman franchise that was so totally mediocre. Why are they trying again? And please for the love of all that is holy, DO NOT MAKE THE VILLAIN LEX FREAKING LUTHOR!!! Doomsday would probably also be a bad idea. I'd say have Darkseid as the bad guy, but that's just going to seem like they're trying to copy Avengers. At this point I'm wondering why I'm even spending this much time on even thinking about a new Superman movie.
Rather than rehash our many arguments about Superman (and how wrong you are), I will agree that outside of Superman and Batman, the DC film cupboard is pretty bare. The Superman sequels got progressively worse in the 80s. The attempt relaunch the character in Superman Returns was a disappointment. The exceptional Chris Nolan Batman films are the only thing holding the DC film franchise together.
Which is why so much is riding on Man of Steel. I read that a fan at Comic-Con asked Zack Snyder if they are laying the groundwork a Justice League movie. I thought he gave a good answer, "Superman is the jewel in the DC crown and really what we’re trying to do is get his house in order, and then who knows what’s possible."
I think that's probably right. They have to get this right, or DC's feature film brand is in trouble. If it's a big hit, there will probably be a Flash, Wonder Woman, a better Green Lantern, and maybe a Justice League. If it bombs, kiss all that goodbye.
Having said that, based on what I've heard about the movie, if ever there was a Superman movie you would like, Ted, this would be it. They are giving Superman lots of opportunities to show what he can do against a villain/s who can physically challenge him (no Lex Luthor). The trailer comes out next week, so we'll see.
Zack Snyder, huh? So will there be any slow-motion shots of Superman in this I wonder?
I thought that 300 was one of the best film adaptations of a comic book from the standpoint of making a movie that looks like what I saw in my mind's eye as I read the comic. I never saw Watchmen. I did, however, really enjoy Sucker Punch way more than I thought I would. I did not like his Dawn of the Dead remake, as I hate fast rage zombies because they're total bullshit. I also never saw his CGI movie about the talking owls, because, well, it was about talking owls. I remember being all excited to see what a good director could do with Superman when Bryan Singer was director of that last one. So, I say that there's a 75% chance that this movie will be 50/50.
Here's what I'd like in a Superman movie:
1.) Lots of cool action because it's a comic book after all;
2.) A villain who is not Lex Luthor or someone from Superman's home planet that is just a bad guy version of Superman.
3.) Some character development that focuses on the fact that Superman could curbstomp planet Earth if he wanted and make us all his slaves, but because of his moral compass he does not.
4.) Tension derived from something other than the people close to Superman being put into harm's way by the machinations of some evil bum-looker.
There. That's it. Get those right and money will flow.
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So DC only has two comic book characters that they want to make into movies? Batman and Superman. That's all. Oh, sure they crapped out Green Lantern, but what else have the done? Jonah Hex? The first Superman movie was good, not awesome, but good. The second one was cheesy fun, but it was no masterpiece. Then Superman III, with Richard Pryor. Wasn't there a Supergirl movie or something? Then the big "reboot" of the Superman franchise that was so totally mediocre. Why are they trying again? And please for the love of all that is holy, DO NOT MAKE THE VILLAIN LEX FREAKING LUTHOR!!! Doomsday would probably also be a bad idea. I'd say have Darkseid as the bad guy, but that's just going to seem like they're trying to copy Avengers. At this point I'm wondering why I'm even spending this much time on even thinking about a new Superman movie.
ted
Rather than rehash our many arguments about Superman (and how wrong you are), I will agree that outside of Superman and Batman, the DC film cupboard is pretty bare. The Superman sequels got progressively worse in the 80s. The attempt relaunch the character in Superman Returns was a disappointment. The exceptional Chris Nolan Batman films are the only thing holding the DC film franchise together.
Which is why so much is riding on Man of Steel. I read that a fan at Comic-Con asked Zack Snyder if they are laying the groundwork a Justice League movie. I thought he gave a good answer, "Superman is the jewel in the DC crown and really what we’re trying to do is get his house in order, and then who knows what’s possible."
I think that's probably right. They have to get this right, or DC's feature film brand is in trouble. If it's a big hit, there will probably be a Flash, Wonder Woman, a better Green Lantern, and maybe a Justice League. If it bombs, kiss all that goodbye.
Having said that, based on what I've heard about the movie, if ever there was a Superman movie you would like, Ted, this would be it. They are giving Superman lots of opportunities to show what he can do against a villain/s who can physically challenge him (no Lex Luthor). The trailer comes out next week, so we'll see.
Zack Snyder, huh? So will there be any slow-motion shots of Superman in this I wonder?
I thought that 300 was one of the best film adaptations of a comic book from the standpoint of making a movie that looks like what I saw in my mind's eye as I read the comic. I never saw Watchmen. I did, however, really enjoy Sucker Punch way more than I thought I would. I did not like his Dawn of the Dead remake, as I hate fast rage zombies because they're total bullshit. I also never saw his CGI movie about the talking owls, because, well, it was about talking owls. I remember being all excited to see what a good director could do with Superman when Bryan Singer was director of that last one. So, I say that there's a 75% chance that this movie will be 50/50.
Here's what I'd like in a Superman movie:
1.) Lots of cool action because it's a comic book after all;
2.) A villain who is not Lex Luthor or someone from Superman's home planet that is just a bad guy version of Superman.
3.) Some character development that focuses on the fact that Superman could curbstomp planet Earth if he wanted and make us all his slaves, but because of his moral compass he does not.
4.) Tension derived from something other than the people close to Superman being put into harm's way by the machinations of some evil bum-looker.
There. That's it. Get those right and money will flow.
ted
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